Chinese ministry moves for 2014

31 December 2014 Leave a comment

Walking busy-street-998875-mHere are Chinese Church English ministry moves for Sydney for 2014:

Andy Chung left Berala Anglican Church in January.

Nathan Dean left LIFE Anglican church in January. He now ministers with Anglicare.

Chadd Hafer begins ministry at WSCCC’s CP10 service in Croydon Park in February.

Alby Lam left EFCA East Lindfield in August. He now leads Grace Anglican Church in East Roseville.

Andrew Hong left North Side Chinese Alliance Church in December. In the new year he will be ministering at Captivate Presbyterian Church in Epping.

Andrew Lim left St Andrew’s Cathedral, Sydney. He now ministers at YesHeIs.

Sam Chan left Sydney Missionary and Bible College. In the new year he begins ministry with City Bible Forum.

Brian Tung left Chatswood Anglican Church. He now ministers at Hurstville Anglican Church.

Peter Lin left Fairfield / Bossley Park Anglican. He is now Bishop of the Georges River Region.

Steve Chong left Kirkplace Presbyterian Church in Kogarah in December.

Joanne left EFCA East Lindfield in February. She had been serving as part time women’s pastor. *

Here are other Chinese ministry moves:

Danny Wong begins ministry at the Cantonese ministry of NDCCCS in Epping.

Samuel Lui left EFCA East Lindfield in January. He now ministers at Praise EFCA in Matraville.

Mary Ren left the Mandarin ministry of EFCA East Lindfield in May. *

Kelvin Kam begins ministry at the Cantonese ministry of Hebron Chinese Alliance Church in Westmead.

Vincent Cheung begins ministry at the Cantonese ministry of CABC Thornleigh. He previously ministered in the English ministry at Hurstville Chinese Baptist Church.

Andrew Choy begins part time ministry at the Cantonese ministry of WSCCC in Strathfield in July.

Alfred Yau begins ministry with the Bennelong Asian Missions church plant in March.

Noah Ho begins ministry in the Chinese ministry of Hurstville Chinese Baptist Church.

Clarence Huin begins ministry at the Cantonese ministry of St Matthew’s West Pennant Hills.

Tiny Tse left Beverly Hills Chinese Baptist Church. She was previously their Mandarin pastor.

Ruth Zheng begins part time ministry at the Mandarin ministry of North Side Chinese Alliance Church.

Robin Zhou begins ministry at the Mandarin ministry of Hebron Chinese Alliance Church.

Got any corrections? Know of any other ministry moves? Let me know!

[ PS: * denotes additions/modifications. ]

Categories: Clergy moves

The Chinese family – and architecture

10 November 2014 Leave a comment

1. Chinese architecture

One of the features of the Chinese worldview is the prominent place given to the family. While it finds particular expression in Confucianism, the family has always been at the centre of the affections for the Chinese – even before the time of Confucius. This comes out in all kinds of ways – but one of the unusual ways that it shows itself is in the architecture of homes in ancient China.

Architecture of course varies from region to region, and depends on geography and climate. But before the modern era one of the most common styles of Chinese architecture was the compound home (known as 四合院, shieyuan). These compound homes are still very common in parts of rural China, and can still be seen in older sections of cities such as Beijing.

2. Family and outsiders

The Chinese compound home was a network of four buildings that are all built to face inward to a central courtyard, and with a the backs of the buildings forming a wall. And this network of interconnected houses would house a whole extended family.

The smaller courtyards in the corners would be used as gardens, kitchens or places to socialise. But the focus of all these houses – and their occupants – was inward, towards the central courtyard. All of the homes open inwards – and not outwards. And the backs of all these houses created a wall, providing privacy and protection against the outside world.

Chinese compound home layout

You will also notice that the entrance is often situated off to one side. Those who visited the compound home did not have direct access the family’s central courtyard – visitors entered through a courtyard, and were received in a kind of waiting room. It was only the household that had access to the rest of the complex.

And so you can see the layout communicated very strongly that family was on the inside – and on the outside was the rest of the world, including the rest of the people in the village. Outsiders would be received politely – but the focus of your community and your concern was your extended family, and the rest of the world didn’t matter so much.

3. Older and younger

Compound homes were laid out along the cardinal points of a compass – and family members invariably occupied certain buildings based on their position in the household.

In an extended family, the head of the household would have the house to the North. Then the eldest son and his family would have the house to the East. The younger son and his family would live in the house to the West. And finally any grandchildren or servants would live in the building to the South.

Because China is situated North of the equator, buildings to the North would have received the most sunshine on its front during the day – and the sun would have shone obliquely. By contrast, buildings that face East or West would have received lesser sunshine – but when they did, the sun would have shone directly into into the eyes of its occupants. And buildings that faced North would have received the least amount of sunshine throughout the day.

What comes out quite strongly is the strict hierarchical arrangement of the household, with the head of the household having the most desirable house, then the eldest son with the next most desirable house – all the way down to the least. And so what we end up with is household being arranged in a way that reflects the idea of family built on filial piety, where younger defers to older.

4. Ancestral spirits and wandering ghosts

One of the features of the Chinese idea of family is that it is much larger than the Western idea of family. So far we can see that the household includes the extended family – but there is actually much more than that. The Chinese idea of family also extends to include the spirits of the ancestors (see previous post). And the place of those ancestral spirits in the family is also reflected in the architecture.

In many compound homes, a room in the main house will be set aside for ancestor worship. This room would house the spirit tablets, but instead of this room being stuck away in the corner of the house, it would often occupy the central room of the main house. And this central room would be the focus of the household’s devotion to the spirits of their ancestors.

Notice that even the living head of the family would not have pride of place in the main house – the head of the family would himself defer to the spirits of the ancestors, both in his worship, and in the rooms he occupied. He wouldn’t take the central room for himself – that would be reserved for the ancestors.

And so the picture that we get is of the family being thought of as one long chain, from younger to older, from living members to the spirits of dead ancestors. And of individuals being merely one link in the long chain, always showing reverence to those above them on the chain, whether they are living members – or the spirits of the ancestors.

But while this covers the spirits of the family, there are other spirits as well… In most compound homes you will also notice that a small structure or screen, either on the outside or inside of the main entrance. This is called the spirit wall, or the spirit screen. I’ll write more about the Chinese belief in ancestral spirits and ghosts in another post, but for now the belief is that ghosts can only go in straight lines, and not around corners. And so a spirit wall or spirit screen was thought to prevent wandering ghosts from seeing into the family home and entering to cause mischief.

These ghosts were not spirits of the ancestors, but were spirits of other people, whose families had neglected to perform the proper ceremonies, leading to their spirits becoming ghosts wandering around the countryside. And the spirit wall was designed to keep these outsiders well away from the realm of the insiders.

And so on the one hand you can see that the spirits of the ancestors are given pride of place in the compound home. But on the other hand, the ghosts of others are kept well away with barriers, in much the same way that the walls of the compound home formed a barrier against outsiders.

5. Insiders and outsiders

Architecture is never neutral. Architecture always says something about our values. Whether it is the steeples of Gothic cathedrals, or the simplicity of Puritan meeting houses.  Whether it was the government apartment block, or the Chinese compound home – architecture always tells us something about what we love and value and fear.

And for centuries in China, what was being worldlessly communicated every single day through their architecture was the exalted place that the family held in the affections of the people. It communicated an idea of family that includes extended family members, and even had a place for ancestors from the past in the family compound. A kind of family that was strictly ordered along Confucian lines, both for the living and the dead.

Architecture is never neutral. Architecture always says something about our values. And in this case, architecture communicated that family was central – and everything else belonged to the outside world.

This post is adapted from a talk I delivered at SMBC earlier this year as part of their 2014 Hot Topics series.

Categories: Chinese culture

Interpreting the Bible – human, divine, or both?

8 May 2014 2 comments

215375 r1. “I’m no expert at reading the Bible…”

“But look at the context,” said Max, turning the Bible around for his friend to read. “It’s clearly not talking about you.”

“I don’t know…” says his friend, shifting uneasily in his chair. He  seemed unwilling to even look down at Max’s Bible. “I’m no expert in reading the Bible. Who can say we are doing it right? But I feel that this is what God is saying to me…”

You might have had several conversations that went just like this over the years.

Ever wondered what’s behind this kind of conversation? Ever wondered what drives this approach to Scripture?

2. Scripture is both a human and a divine document

Our conviction is that Scripture is both a divine word, as well as a human word. And this conviction influences how we end up reading Scripture.

Because we believe that Scripture is a human word – this means that we read it using the normal tools of exegesis for understanding a human document such as a newspaper, a letter, a textbook. We read it in context, we observe how the author builds his argument, we look at the logical flow of the passage.

But because we believe that Scripture is also a divine word – this means that we read this word as having a unity that comes from one divine author, and we submit to it as being God’s truth.

This conviction that Scripture is both human and divine is based on exegetical grounds. Exegetically, we can see that human authors did write the books, and their humanity is reflected in the writings. We can clearly see that this letter was obviously written by Paul to Corinth. Yet exegetically we can also see that these human writings are treated as coming from God (eg. 2 Peter 1:20-21, 3:16).

But this conviction is not solely based on exegetical grounds – it is also based on theological grounds. What is true of the Word of God when he comes in the flesh, is also true of the word of God on paper. As you can see in the following diagram, our Christology (doctrine of Christ) actually parallels our doctrine of Scripture.

Jesus and Bible

Just as Jesus is fully man and fully God, so too is Scripture fully a human document and fully a divine document.

3. Scripture as human document, and Scripture as a divine document

But not everyone reads the Bible with the conviction that it is both 100% a human word, as well as 100% a divine word – and this influences what they do when they read the Bible.

The following diagram outlines three approaches to the Bible. Firstly the conviction that it is a human document, secondly the conviction that it is both human and divine, and thirdly the conviction that it is a divine document.

Bible human or divine

Among Western liberals the tendency is to approach the Bible as an entirely human document. An interesting, and at times inspiring historical artefact which we shouldn’t feel obliged to follow today – but which can shed light on the devotion of others in the past, and which might be a useful resource for our devotion today.

But in contrast among some Eastern believers there is a tendency to approach the Bible as an entirely divine document. While newspapers, letters and textbooks are read in the normal way, the Bible falls into a special category which is not read that way.

In some instances regular believers are hesitant to interpret Scripture for themselves, and instead rely on more spiritual people to interpret it for them. And in other instances interpretations are based not so much on the context and logical flow of the passage – but on the impression that is left on their heart, from being in communion with God.

This of course fits in well with Watchman Nee’s approach to spirituality (see previous post). He disparages the ‘carnal’ resources of exegesis in favour of the more spiritual approach of communing with God, where God who is spirit speaks directly to our spirit.

This approach is called the devotional hermeneutic. It will tend to ignore the context and the logic of the passage, drawing applications out of a passage that might be personally uplifting – but which the author never intended, and which misses the main point of the passage.

Ever had one of those strange conversations with fellow Christians where you couldn’t work out why the context and logic of the passage weren’t driving their interpretation? You can see that it actually stems from the conviction that the Bible is a divine document – and so is exempt from the normal ways in which we read human documents!

Categories: Chinese culture

Confucianism – and Arminianism

18 February 2014 1 comment

Calvin Confucius Arminius

1. Human nature

One of the most important areas in which Confucianism exerts an influence on the faith of Chinese Christians is anthropology – that is, what we believe about the nature of human beings.

Our anthropology is important because what we think is the nature of people influences all manner of things: it influences how we preach to people, how we do evangelism, how we believe people grow as believers. And so it’s important for us to get our anthropology right!

In this post we’re going to consider the anthropology of Confucianism. We’ll do this by firstly considering Confucius himself, before we also look at Mencius and Xunzi, two significant Confucian writers. This will give us a good handle on the kind of things that are in the philosophical background for those influenced by Confucianism.

2. Confucius – silence on human nature

Confucius (551-479 BC) taught his disciples very clearly about the use of rites to train oneself to become a virtuous man. As he went about doing this, his focus was not at all on theoretical questions such as original nature of humans. Instead he concentrated on practical questions such as how one perfects oneself. In 1.15 of the Analects, we find the Confucian metaphor of carving horn, sculpting ivory, cutting jade and polishing stone – metaphors that describe the process of perfecting oneself. In that string of metaphors, the important factor is the process of caving, sculpting, cutting and polishing – processes which are equivalent to learning and observing the rites.

But what did Confucius believe about that original nature of humans? did he believe that we are originally good in nature? or that we are originally evil? It’s not clear what Confucius thought, as this was one of the areas that he remained quiet about. Here is a famous passage from the Analects:

Tzu-Kung said, Our Master’s views concerning culture and the outward insignia of goodness, we are permitted to hear; but about Man’s nature (xìng, 性) and the ways of heaven he will not tell us anything at all.”

Analects, 5.12 (tr. Arthur Waley).

As a result, there is great debate among scholars, with some finding slender threads of support in the Analects for one position or another (eg. Analects 6.16-17). But really, the closest Confucius ever seems to get in talking about nature are passages such as this one:

The Master said, “By nature (xìng, 性) , men are nearly alike; by practice, they get to be wide apart.”

Analects, 17.2 (tr. James Legge).

Even in this passage you can see that his focus is very squarely on practice – and not on nature. And so when it comes to human nature, the consensus is that Confucius never really gave a solid answer, but simply left the question open.

3. Mencius – the goodness of human nature

After his death however, the question of man’s nature became a point of debate between the disciples of Confucius. One of the foremost disciples of Confucius was Mencius (372-289 BC), who believed in the essential goodness of human nature. He believed that humans become evil when they fail to develop that potential, or cultivate what goodness there is. He taught that the seed for the virtues (such as benevolence, righteousness, propriety, knowledge) are already inside us at birth, and only need to be encouraged.

The feeling of commiseration belongs to all men; so does that of shame and dislike; and that of reverence and respect; and that of approving and disapproving. The feeling of commiseration implies the principle of benevolence (ren); that of shame and dislike, the principle of righteousness (yi); that of reverence and respect, the principle of propriety (li); and that of approving and disapproving, the principle of knowledge (zhi). Benevolence, righteousness, propriety, and knowledge are not infused into us from without. We are certainly furnished (duan) with them.

Mencius. 6A.6.

For Mencius, virtue was not a far-off goal to journey towards, but the home (or ‘tranquil habitation’) to which a person is to return:

To say—”I am not able to dwell in benevolence or pursue the path of righteousness,” is what we mean by throwing one’s self away. Benevolence (ren) is the tranquil habitation of man, and righteousness (yi) is his straight path. Alas for them, who leave the tranquil dwelling empty and do not reside in it, and who abandon the right path and do not pursue it!

Mencius, 4A.10.

In 6A.8 Mencius makes use off the analogy of a mountain that was once covered with luxurious trees – but which is now bare because people from a nearby town constantly cut down its trees, and by the constant grazing of sheep and cattle. He comments that,

People, seeing only its baldness, tend to think that it never had any trees. But can this possibly be the nature of the mountain? Can what is in man be completely lacking in moral inclinations? A man’s letting go of his true heart is like the case of the trees and the axes. When the trees are lopped day after day, is it any wonder that they are no longer fine?

Mencius, 6A.8.

The point he is making is that like the tree-covered mountain, humans begin life as essentially good persons, and it is only by exposure to bad examples that a person turns bad. Yes, if you look at people now they appear bad – but that is not their original nature.

How then can a person be made restored to his original goodness? Here Mencius picks up on Confucius’ thought much more explicitly, believing one can perfect oneself through proper education. Here is Mencius again, carrying the metaphor of the mountain further:

Hence, given the right nourishment there is nothing that will not grow, and deprived of it there is nothing that will not wither away.

Mencius, 6A.8.

For Mencius, the rites (li) were the means by which humans preserved and further cultivated that goodness that already resides inside of them.

4. Xunzi – the evil of human nature

However Mencius was not the only one who attempted to fill the void left by Confucius. In stark contrast to Mencius, another disciple named Xunzi (312–230 BC) believed that human nature was essentially evil. He lived and taught just after Mencius, and explicitly interacted with Mencius’ belief in the essential goodness of human nature.

Mencius states that man is capable of learning because his nature is good, but I say that this is wrong. It indicates that he has not really understood man’s nature nor distinguished properly between the basic nature and conscious activity.

Xunzi, 23.

Xunzi taught that humans are born with natural instincts – evil ones – that, if not guided and controlled, led to bad behaviour and social disruption. He writes unequivocally that,

Man’s nature is evil; goodness is the result of conscious activity.

The nature of man is such that he is born with a fondness for profit. If he indulges this fondness, it will lead him into wrangling and strife, and all sense of courtesy and humility will disappear.

He is born with feelings of envy and hate, and if he indulges these, they will lead him into violence and crime, and all sense of loyalty and good faith will disappear.

Man is born with the desires of the eyes and ears, with a fondness for beautiful sights and sounds. If he indulges these, they will lead him into license and wantonness, and all ritual principles and correct forms will be lost.

Hence any man who follows his nature and indulges his emotions will inevitably become involved in wrangling and strife, will violate the forms and rules of society, and will end as a criminal.

Xunzi, 23.

However Xunzi believed that it was possible for humans to be transformed through observing ritual practices (li), so that harmony rather than disorder would prevail in the world. According to Xunzi, these ritual practices served to restrict and control human appetites and desires that rage within ourselves, giving them their proper, orderly expression.

In several places Xunzi makes use of the analogy of how a bent piece of wood may be straightened, or how a piece of metal may be sharpened, as a way to explain the role of this moral education. He writes that,

A warped piece of wood must wait until it has been laid against the straightening board, steamed, and forced into shape before it can become straight; a piece of blunt metal must wait until it has been whetted on a grindstone before it can become sharp.

Similarly, since man’s nature is evil, it must wait for the instructions of a teacher before it can become upright, and for the guidance of ritual principles before it can become orderly.

If men have no teachers to instruct them, they will be inclined towards evil and not upright; and if they have no ritual principles to guide them, they will be perverse and violent and lack order.

Xunzi, 23.

You can see that in line with both Confucius and Mencius, Xunzi also acknowledges the place of education in training a person to become good.

5. Assessment

On first glance, it can seem as though what we have here is a debate about human nature that is similar to the debate in Western theology between Calvinism and Arminianism. After all, within Confucianism we seem to have two poles of opinion: one which holds to the essential evil of human nature (Xunzi), and another which holds to the essential goodness of human nature (Mencius).

Confucianism - Arminianism 01

However it’s important for us to note that this is not really the case. Because both Mencius and Xunzi believe in the perfectibility of the person through means of education. While it is true that Xunzi teaches that human nature is evil, he still believes in the essential rationality of the person, and the ability to choose that which is good. In Xunzi’s thought, evil resides in our passions – but it does not touch our mind.

Here is a contemporary assessment of Xunzi’s teaching about the mind. Notice how the mind is able to choose to do good:

By stressing that human nature is evil, Xunzi singled out the cognitive function of the mind (human rationality) as the basis for morality. We become moral by voluntarily harnessing our desires and passions to act in accordance with societal norms. This is alien to our nature but perceived by our mind as necessary for both survival and well-being.

Tu Weiming, “Confucius and Confucianism”.

By contrast, Reformed Christians believe that the Bible teaches that our will, and even our thinking is affected by the fall (eg. Romans 1:21ff), and so unregenerate people are unable to choose to do good. In theology, this is referred to as the noetic effects of the fall and makes essential the work of regeneration.

And of course Mencius’ understanding of the goodness of humans is clearly at odds with the Bible’s understanding of the fall. Far from being ‘naturally good’, passages like Genesis 6:5, Psalm 51:5 and Romans 5 argue for a much bleaker assessment of the human condition. Mencius’ position actually shares similarities with a Christian heresy called Pelagianism.

Therefore while the poles of thought in Confucianism might seem to be analogous to the differences between Calvinism and Arminianism, it is actually more analogous to the differences between Arminianism and Pelagianism.

Confucianism - Arminianism 02

This means that the philosophical background for those influenced by Confucianism may actually lead to a tendency towards Arminianism at best – and Pelagianism at worst. Because historically, these have been the classical categories for understanding human nature.

Could this account for preaching and evangelism which only addresses the will? rituals that highlight human decision making? Could this account for preaching styles that holds up moral examples for people to follow?

In any case, it highlights that, at the very least, in discussions about Calvinism vs Arminianism, we won’t simply be contending with exegetical questions. We will also be striving against a long-standing, historical commitment to the ability of the mind to choose to do good…

Categories: Chinese culture

Sydney Chinese Ministry moves 2013

31 December 2013 1 comment


Here are Chinese Church English ministry moves for Sydney for 2013:

Joanne began a women’s ministry role at EFCA East Lindfield. She had previously been studying at MTC.

Jason Cho joins CABC West Ryde. He is in his final year of SMBC and was previously from Sae Soon Presbyterian Church.

Andrew Bardsley becomes full time youth pastor at WSCCC. He was previously serving in a part time capacity.

Alistair Chiu moves from St George Anglican Church, Hurstville to minister at Watermark Community Church in Hong Kong. He is their Associate Pastor of Church Community.

Ola Odejayi becomes pastor of the English Ministry at Baulkham Hills Chinese Alliance Church.

Steve Turner left Central Baptist Church and takes up a ministry role at Grace CCC Kogarah.

In August Richard Chiu began ministry at Lidcombe Anglican Church. He has formerly served at Hebron Chinese Alliance Church, and studied at SMBC. 

Megan Du Tuoit moves from Beverly Hills Chinese Baptist Church to Gordon Baptist Church in October as an Associate Pastor. 

Alan Au began studies at Moore College, and also serves at North Side Chinese Alliance Church. He has been doing HGP with the Sydney Uni EU.

Simon Nagel began studies at Moore College, and also serves at Hurstville Chinese Baptist Church.

Lucy He began an MTS traineeship at FOCUS UNSW.

Dave Martin of Hebron Chinese Alliance Church was ordained.

David Chen of EFCA East Lindfield was ordained.

Mark Leong graduates from Moore College. In the new year, he begins ministry with the City Bible Forum.

Mark Boyley is leaving WSCCC. In the new year he will return to MBM Rooty Hill to minister.

Vincent Cheung is leaving Hurstville / Riverwood Chinese Baptist Church. In the new year he will take up further studies.

Here are other Chinese ministry moves

North Shore Community Christian Church Sydney (NSCCCS) merges with Gordon Baptist Church (GBC) on 1 January 2013.

Candy Leung begins ministry as Children’s Ministry Worker at CABC Thronleigh in Feb 2013.

Annie Chen begins ministry as Mandarin Ministry Worker at CABC Thronleigh in Feb 2013.

Daniel Wu left MBM and takes up a role in the Old Testament department at Moore College.

Tim Hu left FOCUS UNSW and is now producing Mandarin resources for Moore College and Matthias Media.

Kevin Chien takes up the role of Mandarin pastor at FOCUS UNSW.

Sam Wong leaves Baulkham Hills Chinese Alliance.

Sylvia Yeung begins ministry with the English side of Perth Alliance Church. She formerly served at Gracepoint Lidcombe and studied at SMBC.

Raymond Leung leaves Bankstown Anglican to do Mandarin ministry at St Andrews Kowloon.

Lorinda Chick served for a while at Chinese Lutheran Church in Epping.

Got any corrections? Know of any other ministry moves? Let me know!

Categories: Clergy moves

Stats on Vietnamese (2011)

27 November 2013 2 comments

Okay, I also recently worked up some stats on Vietnamese in Australia, so I thought I might as well share it here too. It might help some of you be strategic in your ministry… although really, the stats really shocked me. I do hope it spurs us into prayer and action!

At the 2011 ABS census there were 199,248 people of Vietnamese ancestry living in Australia. This represents 0.93% of the overall population.

1. Distribution

First of all, here is the age profile of the Vietnamese population in Australia (click all graphs for a larger version).

Age profile of Vietnamese - 2011

Here is the age profile, but this time broken up into the different states. As you can see, the Vietnamese population is predominantly found in NSW and Victoria.

Age profile of Vietnamese by state - 2011

Here is another graph showing the distribution as a pie chart. NSW and VIC together account for almost 74% of all the Vietnamese in Australia.

Vietnamese by state - 2011

In Sydney, here is a map of where the Vietnamese are living. As you can see, it’s predominantly in the South-West of Sydney, around the two geographic centres of Bankstown, and Cabramatta / Canley Vale.

Vietnamese map - Sydney SA2 2011

Here is a listing of the top areas in NSW (these are SA2 ABS geographic divisions, which are larger than suburbs). If you’re looking to plant a Vietnamese ministry, then these are the areas to target!

Top areas for Vietanmese in Sydney SA2 - 2011

2. Growth

How has the Vietnamese population grown over the past few years? Between the 2006 and 2011 census dates, the Vietnamese population has grown from 158,036 to 199,248. That’s quite a significant growth of 26.1% – by comparison, Australia as a whole grew by only 8.3%!

Size of Vietnamese population - 2006 to 2011

Here is a graph built with data from the Department of Immigration showing historic migration levels from Vietnam – you can see there the huge influx after the Vietnam War in the late 1970’s and through to the 80’s. But since then there has still been steady growth in the Vietnamese population.

Permanent additions from Vietnam - 1975 to 2012

Here is a graph of the age profile from 2006 and 2011 (I’ve aged the 2006 figures by 5 years). People who have migrated between those two census dates would be represented by the area between the two lines – and you can see that migration growth has particularly been in the 15 to 29 age bracket – and especially in the 20-24 age bracket.

Growth of Vietnamese population - 2006 to 2011

3. Religion

But here is where it gets really concerning… This pie graph shows you the religion of the Vietnamese in Australia. A huge 50.5% identify themselves as Buddhists, and 29.2% identify themselves as Roman Catholics. But by comparison, the number of Protestant Christians (including Pentecostals) is very, very small – overall, it’s about 3.25% (or 6,466 people).

Religion of Vietnamese - 2011

Here is a graph showing the age profile of different religions – you can see (or rather, not see) how tiny is the number of Protestants across the whole age range. However if you compare to the overall age profile (the very first graph) you can see that there is perhaps some sign of dissatisfaction in both Buddhism and Catholicism (note that the colours of this line graph are not the same as the colours in the pie graph above).

Age profile of Vietnamese by religion - 2011

Here is a graph from showing church attendance for one Christian denomination – the Christian and Missionary Alliance (C&MA). The C&MA are the major Protestant denomination among the Vietnamese. However you can see that there has been negligible growth among these Vietnamese congregations over the years.

C&MA attendance by ethnicity 1988-2012Overall, the figures look quite troubling: a growing population (26.1% between 2006 and 2011) – yet with few Protestant Christians (3.25% at 2011), and negligible growth among ministries over the years.

What implications do these stats have for ministry among the Vietnamese? What does this mean for evangelism? And what role will the next generation of Vietnamese Christian leadership play?

Categories: Statistics

Stats on Koreans (2011)

16 October 2013 3 comments

I recently worked up some stats on Koreans in Australia, and thought I’d share it with others who might also be interested in getting access to this information. Some of this data is based on the 2011 ABS census, and some is drawn from more recent data from the Department of Immigration.

At the 2011 ABS census there were 84,632 people of Korean ancestry living in Australia. This represents 0.39% of the overall population.

1. Distribution

This first of all is the age profile of the Korean population of Australia. As you can see, it is very strong in the 20 to 40 age bracket.

Korean - Age profile Australia wide graph - 2011

Here I’ve split up the age profile into the different states. You can see that NSW is the place to be.

Korean - Age profile by state graph - 2011

Notice also the significant showing in the 0-4 years section of the graph – this suggests that people are having kids.

Here is another graph showing the distribution of Koreans across the different states. A huge 58.3% of Koreans live in NSW alone!

Korean - by state pie graph - 2011

And in Sydney, here is a map of where Koreans live. You can see significant clusters in the Strathfield, Chatswood, Lidcombe, Eastwood areas.

Korean - Map distribution Sydney by SA2 - 2011

Here is a table with numbers for the top 12 areas on this map:

Strathfield 2614   Hornsby – Waitara 1379
Lidcombe – Regents Park 2140   Canterbury Sth – Campsie 1346
Chatswood East – Artarmon 1697   West Ryde – Meadowbank 1304
Epping – Nth Epping 1674   Carlingford 1256
Eastwood – Denistone 1625   Sydney – Haymarket – The Rocks 1237
Concord West – North Strathfield 1480   Homebusy Bay – Silverwater 1174


2. Growth

There has been significant growth in the Korean population between the 2006 and 2011 census dates. Here is a graph that shows you that growth:

Korean - Growth from 2006 to 2011 bar graph

That’s a growth of 44.8% over five years from 58,441 at the 2006 ABS census, to 84,632 at the 2011 ABS census. By comparison the general population of Australia only grew by 8.3% during this same time!

And this one shows you that it is primarily the younger segment that is experiencing growth. Here I’ve shifted the 2006 age profile five years across so it sits right under the 2011 age profile – and you can see the growth in the population over time (represented by the area between the graphs).

Korean - Age profile growth from 2006 to 2011

Here is another graph, this time drawn from data from the Department of Immigration. This one shows the permanent additions to the Australian population from Korea, from 1996-97 all the way to 2011-12. You can see that there has been increasing growth in the Korean population from 2000-2007, and sustained growth since then.

Korean - Immigration data from 1996-2012

3. Religion

What about in terms of religion? Here is what Koreans indicated in terms of their religion.

Korean - Religion pie graph - 2011

Significant numbers of Koreans identified themselves as Presbyterian & Reformed (23.2%), so that just under 45% profess to be Protestant Christians of some kind.

A significant proportion also identified themselves as Roman Catholic (22.6%), and No religion (23.1%).

Given all that – what do you think are the implications for ministry and evangelism? What are the implications for student ministry, workplace ministry and kids ministry into the future?

Categories: Statistics

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