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Confucianism – and the person

Over the last short while I’ve put up some articles on how Confucianism works. And we’ve seen how Confucianism puts the focus on observing the rules of propriety in the five li roles you may find yourself in (see previous post). But what implications does that have for the Chinese person’s view of him or herself?

Stephen Cheng runs East Asia Access Consulting, a company that trains people wanting to do business in China. He points out that Confucian values heavily influences the Chinese person’s conception of the self, and thus their behaviour – leading to a very different outcome from those influenced by Western values.

In this first diagram, he outlines the Western psychological paradigm, with its emphasis on the values of individuality, autonomy and conflict – and the outcome of this, at the level of needs, behaviours, and assertive personhood.

 

Contrast this to his next diagram, showing the Chinese psychological paradigm. In this case, the Confucian values of filiality, propriety and harmony lead to radically different outcomes in terms of needs, behaviours – and a diminished self.

 

As a result, behaviours that seem pathological in the West – such as being overly dependent on what others think about you – are normal in Confucian countries. And in Confucian countries behaviours that are seen as  pathological – such as independent behaviour and thought – is normal in Western cultures.

In the case of Confucianism, Confucian values lead to a need for approval, which shows itself in approval seeking behaviours such as the following:

  • choosing careers that will please parents, even though you don’t really want to do that work;
  • behaving in the expected manner, even though you feel otherwise;
  • suppressing conflict and pretending that everything is okay in public, even though there is obviously tension.

Ultimately the person is a non-being, only a persona. Yes, they are a father, a son, a member of a group – they are in relationship with others – but their feelings and personal preferences don’t really matter. Just that they behave in the approved way within those roles.

Now this is not to say that the Western world has gotten personhood entirely right – not at all! Trinitarian theology tells us that ultimate reality is beings in relationship – just as the Father, the Son and the Spirit are three persons, eternally in loving relationship with one another. And it can be easily seen that the view of the self that arises from the Trinity is just as different from the Western view of the person, as it is from the Confucian view of the person.

Here is a diagram I shared with some fourth-year students at Moore College recently:

Western individualism has generated a society where the focus is on the individual, and not so much on loving relationships. The highest good is to be "true to yourself" – no matter what everyone else thinks. And you see this reflected in many Hollywood movies! However Confucianism has generated a society where people have roles in interconnected relationships – but personal feelings and desires are not important. The highest good here is to do your duty, even at great personal cost…

If such a Confucian view of the person influences Christianity, this leads to a Christianity that focuses on our duty to God. On right behaviour. On reading the Bible. On making sacrifices for God. But minimises the affections – loving God, longing for the return of Christ, thirsting for God’s word.

In Mark 7 Jesus talks about a people who love God with their lips – but whose hearts are far from him.  Instinctively, Chinese people might think that God would be pleased by such sacrificial obedience. However, God is not honoured – ultimately, Jesus calls such people ‘hypocrites’…

[ PS: things like loving God, longing for the return of Christ, thirsting for God's word are called 'affections'. You'll find some posts on the affections back in January and February... ]

Categories: Chinese culture
  1. William
    23 July 2008 at 4:00 pm | #1

    Very nice diagrams.It expresses what a lot of us feel in as ABCs. I find that when I talk with Westerners I have to keep emphasising the societal/familial duties and when I talk with Esaterners, I have to encourage them to reveal their true emotions/thoughts… very practical.Thanks for the mention in the "Walk with Jesus" blog. I\’ve improved <bachnwill.blogspot.com> so people can chat to me live and also post things on facebook/digg/de.li.cious.W.

  2. William
    24 July 2008 at 10:48 am | #2

    Very helpful post. I\’ve been in an ABC congregation for a long time and have only recently moved back into the Chinese congregation (with some difficulty).In hindsight, some of the problems I\’ve been facing seems to stem from different expectations of behaviour (the blue box) and different needs (the pink boxes) between the two psychological paradigms.Let\’s hope (and pray) that we can all relate to each other in the church community in a Trinitarian-like relationship.

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